The salary is 22.50 an hour sounds good but there is so much you don't get paid for that other airlines do. It does sound like not much at the moment, but I think the idea behind it, that for a starting Airline and in the pandamic, to only offer 55h minium is understandable. The good news is that the hourly wages are above-average. Not sure if labor pool for whom the model fits is really large enough to support high turnover baked into the model or can support scale to provide regular flight frequency but we'll see. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. If the labor model is as stupid and exploitative as you seem to believe it is, it will fail. @samuel. Even if/though they get corporate housing (which could also be really dismal) they've still got to pay for food. Posted by 5 minutes ago. You seem to be an angry young man. And I'm not convinced a bright college student can't get the job done. Per the website, FAs can work a maximum of 60 hours per month. Some can force their way, others will accept any offer out of fear to lose their job. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. I would instruct my old self to work yet harder for my lousy salary. Spirit airlines is one of the most profitable airlines in the world proving that many people care more about price than most other things on flights. Breeze Airways First Officers: $62,000 by year six, JetBlue First Officers: $117,000 by year six, Breeze Airways Captains: $94,000 by year six. Is there a penalty for leaving early? Thats exactly what I got from reading the article.. Hello Travis and thank you for the advice. I'm a flight attendant for JetBlue Airways and I make $56 per hour, that is, after 15 years but still. And that doesn't include per diem. This article mentions and quotes minimum monthly guarantee, but fails to show the pay for picking up extra flying. $1,200/mo if you have 15 days off and $1,400/mo if only 10. I'm a 'union guy' for sure. Vote. P Glotzer (United States) 1st March 2023. Breeze has promised to pay flight attendants a fixed monthly rate of $1,200, alongside an annual bursary of $6,000 and free shared company accommodation. save. I think the FAA needs to look into this. The pay scale also looks good. Add to that COVID and these poor guys will have NO CHOICE but to fly for these asshats. At least, I can't find that information. Hire new, low hours FO with a salary that is 30% lower than the market on the promise that they will be promoted to captain in 1 year. 2) housing: I am curious what housing? In youth I worked fast food full-time for many years. (the "free" school and housing comes out of their pay just as much as if they got full pay, and paid for the school/housing themselves). *The whole "Home Monthly" is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. Death to racist capitalism, Life and good health to the international working class. Do they add up for you? Stay connected with the latest travel, aviation, and credit card news. I think it will succeed as long as they can attract enough flight attendants on an ongoing basis. I don't know how Breeze expects to hire the best people who invest in the job at those wages. 8 hours reserve gets 4 hours of pay $38 per hour. This is cynical exploitation at its worst and I hope that the public recognises this and vote with their feet. Most of the comments are/were regarding the MMG and hourly pay, but the key factor is the requirements to actually get the job. I suppose you're also going to apply the company town line to the internships that MIcrosoft, Google, and many other corporations have going for aspiring developers. Criticizing workers for lack of professional ambition is part of our toxic "professional achievement & success, income as identity" culture, especially where there are so many ways to live fulfilling lives that are not defined by constant growth of income. I interviewed with them for cabin crew You must be enrolled at Utah Valley University full-time and maintain 3.0 GPA. I have no doubts in How often is the minimum guaranteed hours exceeded in a given month? I have suggested reestablishing a mandatory retirement age for flight crew and a renaming to inflight first responders. These comments are something else. No other large country trains and hires their airline pilots the way we do. 35 developed countries around the world have better healthcare than the USA and many of them don't leave their citizens without a safety net. What sets Breeze Airways hourly salaries apart is the monthly hourly guarantee, which is only 55 hours, or at most, $7,865 per month before taxes (for Captains in their sixth year). Expect PGD, IAG, SFB, ORH, RFD, PIT and to change seasonally. Scary and for sure a company that will NEVER see me on any of there planes! My only other option right now is to start all over at another regional where the pay, seniority, and quality of life will be much lower. Grumpy old man can be Ebenezer Scrooge. I'm sure Breeze will find plenty of young, naive college students who sign up for this, not realizing what they are getting themselves into. The pay is horrifically low, though. They are offering an employment model that will appeal to some people and no other airline can/will match it so the cost differences should be sustainable. Glorious. Word is Allegiant about to get a TA/contract that surpasses our own in pay, benefits etc. Or maybe the extension to San Francisco's Oakland Bay Bridge, built entirely in China, shipped across the ocean in pieces, and bolted together by 100% American union labor for a living wage. These comments are something else. America is Great! *Layovers will be rare (mechanical issues, weather), trip planning will be "turns" - out and back same day. As for the FA's..they will definitely be lined up around the block for a job like this with those benies. Were going to work hard to make sure this doesnt get off the ground, says Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA. I don't know if they will succeed, but credit them for thinking outside the box. Many may look back later in life with a better career and better economics fondly with the experience they had along with friendships made. Of course we know what Nelson is really up: unions cant stand having to compete and this model could threaten her power and the power of her union. Breeze Now, Pay Later. Breeze Airways Pilots are responsible for ensuring safe and timely flight operations in accordance with all Company policies and Federal Aviation Regulations. So a lifelong career. At least here they will learn something. The job may fit more workers than you think. I am over the moon thrilled! So they only want young, pretty, college girls and completely straight acting College guys? For a certain person, this could be an ideal job. Chances if you have surgery, you already have. I explained more in my previous posts. Same pattern emerges for Captains as well. 14% below the national average Job openings matching Flight Attendant in Breeze Airways Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time BDL Hartford, CT 30+ days ago Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time ORF I can't always trust a computer system to give me the perks or pay attention to the details I care about. A huge percentage of new flight attendants leave within the first year. You don't get any insurances. Our model gets smarter over time as more people share salaries on Glassdoor. @samuel. The wont to have pilots on there books, but wont have at the beginnig a lot of flightsSo from a business point it makes sence to have more pilots who only fligh 55h instead of having less pilots with 75h. I'm sure safety will be first class on Breeze. Thanks for the weird post about the fast food you like, though :). Starbucks employees don't plan on a career there, but they love the culture and it offers them a launching pad. Im a retired AA captain. They are exploiting pilots. Are they taking advantage of the pilot supply right nowprobably so, because they can, but to claim they're being "exploitative" is a stretch in my opinion. $1,200 a month is an embarrassment. In other words, the airline is trying to exclude anyone who has a family, a college degree, or is looking to build a career. Considering that airlines pay for very expensive training twice a year, this tactic may prove more expensive in the long run. Lets compare Breezes pilot pay to that of a couple of other airlines: Heres JetBlues Embraer 190 pilot pay scale: JetBlue Embraer 190 pilots get paid way more. But lets say you have a couple of days off. . Thanks for being transparent that these comments are nearly all from a union organizing push before the airline even launches. I don't think any new business venture in a competitive feel can be termed "exploitative." There are a finite quantity of qualified pilots and the barrier to entry for that work is significant. The Breeze pilots, once hired, will see the Neeleman is begging for a pilot union to quickly form on his new airline, whether he knows it or not. Young, unattached, few opportunities, and committed to finishing school in 4 years. El Segundo, CA 90245. Partying and hanging out with friends is what college students are supposed to be doing. 1) Why not schedule surgery with a "doctor as an intern.?". They can earn $40,000-$60,000 a year, cut you open, and often perform your entire surgery under the direct and indirect supervision of attending physicians, who are more experienced and make more like $350,000 to $700,000 a year. I will make $15-20 per hour for my hard work on average when you figure all the work we do for free. Which means, the flight attendant occupation is DIRECTLY responsible for marketing the company to the public. Schmucks! I think it will succeed as long as they can attract enough flight attendants on an ongoing basis. Chances if you have surgery, you already have. You can't have a million dollar dream with minimum wage work ethics. A union can negotiate for the whole group, unity makes force. I would have loved an opportunity like this. At the end of the day your skill set is only worth what the market will pay. The airline is expected to start selling tickets any day now, and I know many of us are curious about what the Salt Lake City-based carriers first routes will be. JetBlue pilots earn significantly more per hour and are given a 70-hour monthly guarantee. @RobertB unless Breeze starts showing a pattern of denying jobs to older, experienced flight attendants who want to do the work and following Breeze's presumably legal employment practices, there is no discrimination. Not to mention the work ethic or lack of it. Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. Very clever. They can't profitably or even just realistically offer higher minimums than that at this point because they won't have the volume of flights. New or retreads? Corporate apartments with two bedrooms. This wage is above the federal minimum wage, includes housing and a $6k tuition credit. I have no doubts in my mind that they'll increase it in time, but they need a few years of profitability under their belt first so they can justifiably offer higher hours/pay. The pay is horrifically low, though. Unfortunatetly, US travel and passenger fare remains an uncertainty. Alaska Airlines Business Card Review: 70K Miles & Lufthansas Boeing 787 Business Class: Exactly As Expected. This same thing happened in Brazil with Azul. The a la carte formula is very popular whether you personally like it or not. This job is not nor intended to be for every young person. The offered wages are above-average ates in the United States. . maximum takeoff weight), Must have 500 hours of PIC in large, Group II transport category aircraft (turbojet aircraft of more than 41,000 lbs. 909 N. Sepulveda Blvd, 11th Floor He is probably right in both those factors. . Salary; Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time ORF: Breeze Aviation Group: Norfolk, VA: $34K-$53K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time PVU: Breeze Aviation Group: Provo, UT: $39K-$60K: Breeze Airways Flight Attendant - Full Time TPA: Breeze Aviation Group: Tampa, FL: $33K-$53K: Intern Procurement - Summer 2023: Breeze Aviation . You have successfully joined our subscriber list. Rude, Fat-Fugly, Nasty, Filthy, Unfit. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. 3.Enough may feel that this is just fine for 1-2 years. This hasnt been without controversy, though. Right now I believe there are more pilots than are needed. Spent $50 at the Vagabond motel next to the airport. The concept does turn on to be "too good to be true" at least for me, just based on the insurance matter alone. *The whole Home Monthly is based on operational needs and must be scheduled 3 weeks prior. They paid $3.50 an hour. By clicking the Send button, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy, and to the use of cookies described therein, and you also consent to the collection, storage, and processing of your data in the United States where the level of data protection may be different from that in your country. Does Breeze offer enough pay to pilots? Of Course, Oops: Jetstars Embarrassing Bali Flight Blunder. Read on. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Just as the cure for high prices, are high prices, the cure for low wages, are low wages.